Did I trick you?  The 2cats are still 2 and not 3.  I'm talking about my brand new Kitten drum carder from Fancy Kitty ! I got the 120 cloth for fine fibers.  The maker suggests that only people who are making batts of mostly angora or maybe suri alpaca need the 190 cloth. I love it! It's not hugely different from the Pat Green  I was borrowing from Rachel , but it's more compact and I like that.  There's a Ravelry group  for the carders and the maker answers questions all the time.  These blog posts  from The Painted Tiger are incredibly helpful and drool-worthy. I've made a few batts by now, and I can easily get at least 2.5oz of fiber using the brush to push the fibers down the teeth.  I haven't been fastening the brush attachment in the down position, just pushing it down with my hand for a few turns now and then.  This is one of the batts I made for the Phat Fiber  October steampunk theme.  It's a blend of merino, camel, and silk based on the character ...